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Which forum solution to choose?

Which forum solution to choose?

Wednesday 07 December 2011 2:48:21 pm - 11 replies

Hello

I guess this question has been asked again and again.

So I just ask again one more time happy.gif Emoticon Further more things evolve a lot

So, within an eZPublish (very last version), which forum solution should you use ? The aim being to have an ultimate solution, and can handle high trafic

Several solutions:

1/ Use or code an extension for eZPublish, but it's definitely limited against forum solution on the market (however no bridge to develop)

2/ Use a forum from the market (which one ? IP.board, vbulletin, phpBB3 first come to mind...), ultimate solution, but what about the communication between eZPublish and this forum solution ?
Maybe some bridges already exist ?

3/ other solutions... please tell more if you know a better solution

Thanks for your precious feedbacks

Wednesday 07 December 2011 4:11:50 pm

Hi Jerome,

I guess it depends on your use case. Each one of this solutions have positive and negative sides. Forums can, over time, accumulate an insane amount of posts and threads so it would be nice to keep those sepearate from eZ content model, caching mechanisms and other eZ specifics. Each of the mentioned forum solutions can easily be plugged into any CMS that is able to provide user authentication service to external apps. IMO they are certainly more powerful and specialised then eZ content model and role/policy model will be when it comes to forums.

However, by using non eZ solution for forums, you loose the ability to use eZ Find (or it's usage suddenly becomes very hard) to index forums/posts, you have to manage two separate list of access policies, and so on, and so on.

Thursday 08 December 2011 1:31:26 pm

Thanks For the Post.

Modified on Tuesday 13 December 2011 10:14:46 am by chad cole

Sunday 11 December 2011 11:09:36 am

Thanks Edi for your reply and indicating pros and cons of each solution.

Concerning my need, I'd like a forum that can handle a lot of trafic and a lot of nice features. So I'm considering using a forum from the market (ipb, vbulletin, phpbb3, other...)

=> Which solution would you choose Edi ?

Is there some kind of existing bridges (eZ Extension or whatever) between eZPublish and this forum ?

Concerning eZFind, hum...it's a big problem...

Not possible to trigger a function on the forum side that adds a 'fake' forum post on eZFind /solR (via ajax, rest, whatever) ?

Monday 12 December 2011 10:21:58 am

Well, ipb and vbulletin are commercial, and phpbb3 is open source, so that is one issue to consider. Apart from that, any of those three are really great pieces of software with lots of addons and nice community.

As for eZ Find/Solr, it would certainly be possible to store new posts into Solr index, after all, storing in index is just a matter of making a POST request to Solr backend. But, probably the big problem would be eZ Find Solr schema which will most definitelly be incompatible with data model of any forum software you choose. Also, you wouldn't be able to use eZ Find fetches to display content as they expect a valid eZ node for each of the documents in Solr to display correctly.

Thursday 05 January 2012 9:34:51 am

Hello,

at first i would defintely agree with the second post by Edi. Maybe you already hace chosen a forum solution, what was your decision?

We have phpBB in one of our projects running and its more or less fine. Sometime we have problems with max_connections, but thats a topic about the MySQL-Server.

The Forum is just included through a template, but shares the ez-Users to handle authentication etc.

I would be really interested in what forum you finally have chosen.

 

Best Regards

Chris

Modified on Thursday 05 January 2012 9:36:00 am by Christoph Stollwerk

Thursday 05 January 2012 10:51:05 am

Hello Chris,

We consider to use IP.Board indeed

I've already worked with vBulletin, it's really good (templating is really easy, just like ez overidding indeed, so highly maintainable)

IP.Board is a competitor, I guess those 2 tools have the same level, I've heard IP.Board could handle the load in a better way than vBulletin, but it may be wrong now, dunno...

You can check this baseline: http://www.forum-software.org/sites/default/themes/forumsoftware/images/timeline/forum-softwares-timeline.png

IP.board has more fresh awards than vBulletin

And what make us prefer IP.Board is XenForo, launched by former vBulletin Developers, so I quite fear some high skills developers of vBulletin has gone out the boat...

 

And concerning phpBB, well the fact is I've installed several phpBB2, and... you know... the version 2 of it was just a s****, so buggy, hard to template and so on... I remember the time when 'Internet' has fallen just because a bug of phpBB2 spread all over the world, it was impressive...

Of course phpBB3 has nothing comparable with phpBB2 (hopefully), but I prefer to pay several bucks. The ease of templating in vBulletin is just impressive. It was not so simple with phpBB3, but I may be wrong. Things change a lot and quickly...

But to finish, I've absolutely no feedback on IP.board working side by side with eZ, so please don't pay so much attention to what I may say blunk.gif Emoticon

Best Regards

Thursday 05 January 2012 6:01:50 pm

Hey Jerome,

thank you very much for your detailed answer. I really appreciated.

From now on, I defintetely know what board to combine with eZ.

Best Regards

Chris

Thursday 05 January 2012 6:34:49 pm

Hi Chris,

I repeat one more time because it's important happy.gif Emoticon

I've *never* experienced combining a forum with eZ Publish ! I was just talking about a *feeling* I may have among the different solutions...

Maybe after a real experience, vBulletin or phpBB3 would be better, really dunno...

For now one, it's just a feeling

Thursday 05 January 2012 6:42:05 pm

This is a very interesting question Jérome.

I would like to add another forum solution : http://vanillaforums.org

It looks promising but the first time I heard of this solution was 2 days ago while testing Insync (this is a sync solution for Google Docs and they use it as forum and support board) so I do not have any feedback my self (considering Vanilla as a professional solution or as a free open source one).

Feedback appreciated if some of you already tried it and/or implemented it with eZ Publish.

Thursday 05 January 2012 7:48:28 pm

This is a very interesting question Jérome.

I would like to add another forum solution : http://vanillaforums.org

It looks promising but the first time I heard of this solution was 2 days ago while testing Insync (this is a sync solution for Google Docs and they use it as forum and support board) so I do not have any feedback my self (considering Vanilla as a professional solution or as a free open source one).

Feedback appreciated if some of you already tried it and/or implemented it with eZ Publish.

Jérôme Vielledent mentioned me in London over couple of beers that he's using Vanilla forums on his hobby site Metal France (http://www.metalfrance.net, but seems to be down ATM) and that he was impressed with it.

The site itself is in eZ Publish so he might've done some kind of integration. You ought to ask him.

Modified on Thursday 05 January 2012 7:50:16 pm by Edi Modrić

Tuesday 10 January 2012 9:09:04 am

This site (www.metalfrance.net) is back online.

It would be interesting to have a feedback from Jérôme Vielledent on this forum, and maybe with other feedbacks from other forum happy.gif Emoticon

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